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I'm moving to LA in mid June and I want to start a ska band (2nd or 3rd wave?) when I get there, anyone interested? I play guitar; you can find some of my stuff at http://www.myspace.com/flamingmango

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I might, depending on your definition of 3rd wave.
I know this is unrelated, but Reel Big Fish sucks.
Danny C said:
I know this is unrelated, but Reel Big Fish sucks.

Yeah, but any written statement such as the one above that prompts its reader to *forget* Reel Big Fish is more or less okay with me.
True, true.Good catch.
3rd wave as in planet smashers/big D/ save ferris. Not arrogant sons of bitches or RBF. Does that help? I'm pretty flexible as long ad it's ska. Oh, and Hi Skibz! Long time no see!

Skibz McCullock said:
I might, depending on your definition of 3rd wave.
Ryan Upstrokes said:
3rd wave as in planet smashers/big D/ save ferris. Not arrogant sons of bitches or RBF. Does that help? I'm pretty flexible as long ad it's ska. Oh, and Hi Skibz! Long time no see!
Have we met in person? O_o
Planet Smashers, not bad. See, I differentiate between "ska punk" and "third wave", the latter of which I define by a steady rhythm: no tempo/distortion breaks...Planet Smashers are a fine example (or The Toasters, Let's Go Bowling, etc.). That's pretty much my default way of being as far as ska is concerned and exactly what I would want to play and convey as a band, skinny tie and all. "Spirit of '94", if you will, or "Spirit of '81" if you're feeling nostalgic. That's what *I'd* want to do, though, personally, me being Mr. Eclecticism, it's safe to say that I would attempt to occasionally infuse elements of, say, Northern Soul, swing, rockabilly, surf or even Elvis Costello-y rock into the mix.

In the last five years, I've only encountered two people who sought to play "steadybeat third wave", but nothing ever came to fruition. I came partially close to forming my own band a few years back but a) people just weren't interested in playing ska, b) those who were interested wanted to play punk or were mediocre musicians, and c) I was stuck in an avant-garde mindframe and my outlandish ideas didn't settle well with the rest of the band. Orange County and Los Angeles seem rather hopeless when it comes to playing ska that isn't sloppy horn-punk or by-the-book trad reggae. San Diego, on the other hand, seems to boast a very promising-looking scene...

Wait, what am I rambling about? What was the question again? O_o

Danny C said:
True, true.Good catch.
I can't lie, though: bias aside, as far as ska-punk goes, 'Turn the Radio Off' is a classic album, and I personally liked 'Cheer Up!', and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
Yes skibz, I think we met at an aquabats holiday show in LA and San Diego. I drove from Washington state and was with my friend Ale. You wear a labcoat right?

Skibz McCullock said:
Ryan Upstrokes said:
3rd wave as in planet smashers/big D/ save ferris. Not arrogant sons of bitches or RBF. Does that help? I'm pretty flexible as long ad it's ska. Oh, and Hi Skibz! Long time no see!
Have we met in person? O_o
Planet Smashers, not bad. See, I differentiate between "ska punk" and "third wave", the latter of which I define by a steady rhythm: no tempo/distortion breaks...Planet Smashers are a fine example (or The Toasters, Let's Go Bowling, etc.). That's pretty much my default way of being as far as ska is concerned and exactly what I would want to play and convey as a band, skinny tie and all. "Spirit of '94", if you will, or "Spirit of '81" if you're feeling nostalgic. That's what *I'd* want to do, though, personally, me being Mr. Eclecticism, it's safe to say that I would attempt to occasionally infuse elements of, say, Northern Soul, swing, rockabilly, surf or even Elvis Costello-y rock into the mix.

In the last five years, I've only encountered two people who sought to play "steadybeat third wave", but nothing ever came to fruition. I came partially close to forming my own band a few years back but a) people just weren't interested in playing ska, b) those who were interested wanted to play punk or were mediocre musicians, and c) I was stuck in an avant-garde mindframe and my outlandish ideas didn't settle well with the rest of the band. Orange County and Los Angeles seem rather hopeless when it comes to playing ska that isn't sloppy horn-punk or by-the-book trad reggae. San Diego, on the other hand, seems to boast a very promising-looking scene...

Wait, what am I rambling about? What was the question again? O_o

Danny C said:
True, true.Good catch.
I can't lie, though: bias aside, as far as ska-punk goes, 'Turn the Radio Off' is a classic album, and I personally liked 'Cheer Up!', and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
Ryan Upstrokes said:
Yes skibz, I think we met at an aquabats holiday show in LA and San Diego. I drove from Washington state and was with my friend Ale. You wear a labcoat right?
You're not the guy who proposed on stage, are you? That's the only person I remember meeting at both shows. No offense intended if I can't remember you...I'm better with faces than names. And yes, I *wore* a labcoat...it's not an everyday wardrobe occurrence.
"I can't lie, though: bias aside, as far as ska-punk goes, 'Turn the Radio Off' is a classic album, and I personally liked 'Cheer Up!', and I'm not ashamed to admit it."


Yeah, they used to be pretty good, I love Cheer Up and some of their earlier albums. But I think "Our Live Album..." was the beginning of them sucking.
Danny C said:Yeah, they used to be pretty good, I love Cheer Up and some of their earlier albums. But I think "Our Live Album..." was the beginning of them sucking.
'Turn the Radio Off' was, in my opinion, a classic pop album on the level of 'Tragic Kingdom': a true product of both its time (the mid-90s) and its location (Orange County)...the music and atmosphere just flow so effortlessly and it's fun without ever trying too hard to be. 'WDTRSH?' came off as a cheap rehash of the formula that made them popular, but they broadened their songwriting craft with 'Cheer Up!', and the album was infinitely better because of that. Unfortunately, it didn't last for long, and now everything they do seems like they're intent on reliving 1997 over and over again in preparation for a long career circuit at county fairs and store openings, Hawaiian shirts, ironic cover songs and all. :/
so anyways.... start a band? :D
Spirit of 94 or 81...priceless that should be album tittle. I'm going to make shirts with that on it mimicing the spirit of 69 logos I've een. Reel Big Fish did provive me with a great memory though. Their song about moshing and their natural magenetic attraction of frat boys eneded with me in a suit taking on a fraternity. lol

Skibz McCullock said:
Ryan Upstrokes said:
3rd wave as in planet smashers/big D/ save ferris. Not arrogant sons of bitches or RBF. Does that help? I'm pretty flexible as long ad it's ska. Oh, and Hi Skibz! Long time no see!
Have we met in person? O_o
Planet Smashers, not bad. See, I differentiate between "ska punk" and "third wave", the latter of which I define by a steady rhythm: no tempo/distortion breaks...Planet Smashers are a fine example (or The Toasters, Let's Go Bowling, etc.). That's pretty much my default way of being as far as ska is concerned and exactly what I would want to play and convey as a band, skinny tie and all. "Spirit of '94", if you will, or "Spirit of '81" if you're feeling nostalgic. That's what *I'd* want to do, though, personally, me being Mr. Eclecticism, it's safe to say that I would attempt to occasionally infuse elements of, say, Northern Soul, swing, rockabilly, surf or even Elvis Costello-y rock into the mix.

In the last five years, I've only encountered two people who sought to play "steadybeat third wave", but nothing ever came to fruition. I came partially close to forming my own band a few years back but a) people just weren't interested in playing ska, b) those who were interested wanted to play punk or were mediocre musicians, and c) I was stuck in an avant-garde mindframe and my outlandish ideas didn't settle well with the rest of the band. Orange County and Los Angeles seem rather hopeless when it comes to playing ska that isn't sloppy horn-punk or by-the-book trad reggae. San Diego, on the other hand, seems to boast a very promising-looking scene...

Wait, what am I rambling about? What was the question again? O_o

Danny C said:
True, true.Good catch.
I can't lie, though: bias aside, as far as ska-punk goes, 'Turn the Radio Off' is a classic album, and I personally liked 'Cheer Up!', and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

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